shockolanu (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

za plane iz very cool.

actionfritz (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

russian planes look soooooo cool

ylad1999 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

well that was slow and boring !!!

themios72 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

unbelievable the best! mig 35!i saw myself playing with jet planes when i was a kid i used 2 do those flips and turns and cobra moves pretending i was flying the plane seeing this reminds me of my child hood when dreams come true russia your planes have reach completenes where now? i want to say this usa and the detained zionist world with nato what are you going to do when the thrust vectoring comes looking for you who's going to save you your f22 no way not today never maybe kissinger ha ha!

junver29 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

SoyGoose got ur point. but if you trace the history of our conversation, with our fellow people here what impointing out is that maneuverabiltiy is only second. thats why said that read the history of the topic. dont comment in just waht you see here trace the roots of conversation.

SoyGoose (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Junver29, u said it, "if you dont believe in the F22 technolgy that i have mention lets stick to the desert storm. 26 mig jets have been shot dowm by the coalition force using the F15", and I think that it´s very poor argument, because there are diferent kinds of migs with diferent missions. I don t attack u and how i can think all that i want. I think that is very poor if you want say that the f22 have good technology.

junver29 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

SoyGoose What i say is poor? its my opinion man, i can say also that what you say is much very poor but i would not bec. i respect someones opinion. Read all my comments first.and sometimes the comment here is just an answer to a particular comment. so read the comment history first before commenting to someones comment.

SoyGoose (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Junver29, i think that you say is very poor. don t compare a F-15, a pure fighter, with the last american avionics and the last misile with a diferents kinds of migs, fighter-bomber for example, with russian avionics and misiles, i doubt if it is the last at the moment and pilots with little experience. Migs are many. Can Mig15 fight with a F15? If I am stupid say always yes.

egosanti (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

red storm rising!!!

itsahypocriticalword (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

That's true, but you can't compare their migs to our migs because they were flying old versions of tuned down export models. Oh, and their pilots were poorly trained...